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Wednesday, April 24, 2019
Wednesday, April 10, 2019
Super Star Children's Book Review: Mia Mayhem Is A Superhero
Welcome to the monthly children’s book review feature with a focus on diverse books here at Bird Meets Worm! My team of reviewers—Joan Charles, Laurie Young, Sarah Orgill—and I are so excited to be championing books celebrating everything from gender diversity, people of color, the LGBTQ community to ethnic, cultural and religious minorities, people with disabilities and developmental challenges to controversial topics, unique family situations and anything and everything I did not include. It is to say we take a rightfully broad view of diversity! We aim to shine a light on books that bring both familiar experiences to those who do not often see themselves represented in books and new experiences to those looking to expand their worldview. Here at Bird Meets Worm we believe in the power of story to build empathy and thus a better world for you and me and everyone. Look for a new review on the second Wednesday of every month.
MIA MAYHEM IS A SUPERHERO
Written By Kara West • Illustrated by Leeza Hernandez
Middle Grade Chapter Book (ages 5-9) • 121 pages
Published by Little Simon. • 2018
ISBN 978-1-5344-3269-7
Mia Mayhem Is A Superhero is a delightfully illustrated, young middle grade chapter book, starring the chaos-magnet, ball of energy: Mia Mayhem! Wherever Mia goes, disaster hilariously follows—CRASH! BANG! BOOM!—until Mia’s luck takes an exciting turn. When Mia receives a letter announcing her acceptance into the Program for In Training Superheroes (the PITS), she discovers that she is, in fact, part of a whole family of superheroes! The only question is: how will she fit into the PITS, if she doesn’t even know what her super power is?
Readers will laugh and giggle as Mia makes her way through the story in expressive, action-filled illustrations. All the details—stars, lightning bolts, screen dots textures & comic book panels—will transport the reader into Mia’s super world. No doubt, you’ll be inspired to get out your own cape & mask and save the day, too!
(Extra bonus: Mia Mayhem Is A Superhero is the debut title in a whole series! So there's more adventure—and chaos!—ahead!)
Buy this book:
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Reviewed by: Jane Smith
Buy this book:
Barnes & Noble
Independent Bookstores
Reviewed by: Jane Smith
Tuesday, April 2, 2019
Super Star Interviews: Alyssa Nassner
Welcome to my monthly interview feature! I’m so excited to be interviewing all the fabulous artists, illustrators and designers I’ve meet over the years (both personally and virtually!) and sharing their artwork and experiences here on Bird Meets Worm. Look for a new interview on the first Tuesday of every month.
This month I’m so excited to be chatting it up with rock star Illustrator & Hand Letterer, Alyssa Nassner! I'm a total fan girl for Alyssa's typography & bright, graphic illustrations! Alyssa is from Baltimore, based out of Brooklyn, NY. She earned her BFA in illustration from the Maryland Institute College of Art. By day she is the Lead Visual Designer for Curbed.com (previously for ABRAMS Kids, Callisto Media and Target), and in her spare time she dabbles in hand lettering and food illustration. Alyssa is also quite fond of dogs, donuts, her family, and traveling. Her biggest inspirations include vintage botanical prints, mid-century illustration and good bottles of Beaujolais. You can enjoy more of her artwork here!
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| Artsy glasses, check! Cute jean jacket, check! Super star status, check! |
Q: You are a total rock star at creating and designing original typography, both as an illustrator and as an art director/designer! Dish with us a bit about your process from initial ideas to sketches to finished products and what unique considerations are necessary when creating original typography.
A: First of all, thank you so much, I’m flattered! My process has evolved over the years and definitely depends on the type of project I’m working on. When I was first starting out, I relied heavily on using typefaces or existing alphabets to start. I would set the type and manipulate it in Photoshop or by tracing it and then customizing it based on placement / composition / stylistic needs. It required a lot of trial and error to get things right. Through doing that, I was able to understand different typographic styles and develop a lettering vocabulary.
These days, on most projects, I don’t need to rely on reference as much and I’ve learned to loosen up and rely on my instincts more. I will say that the internet is an abundant source of archival type specimen and inspiration, so if I’m looking to do something new, I do still tend to start by researching and always recommend that to folks who need a jumping off point. The most important aspect to me is making sure the lettering is complimentary to the illustration it’s accompanying and its style furthers the tone of the design.
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| If Magic 8 Ball says it, it must be true! |
Q: You have a strong graphic sensibility in your work that is absolutely delightful as well as a keen sense of what is trendy-cool-fabulous right now! Give us the scoop on your own unique influences and inspirations: the who/the where/the what.
A: Again, thank you so much! I think this is something I’m constantly cultivating. It’s really easy to get caught up in my Instagram feed or on my closed-loop Pinterest recommendations, so I’ve been working hard to find inspiration outside of the illustration world. Going to galleries and museums, visiting the zoo and botanical garden, reading more and learning about subjects outside of art. For the first time since college, I have hobbies outside of art.
Over the past two years I’ve really poured myself into learning about wine and enjoying cooking and baking and hosting more. These things have really, and not surprisingly, impacted the course of my creative work. My passion for food and wine outside of art making has resurfaced into my personal work, which has in turn, inspired clients to hire me for that type of work. One of my most consistent clients last year was Wine Enthusiast—all because I started reading books about wine and drawing based on that interest. I also have a great group of friends who are also living multi-faceted lives and killing it in their careers—knowing and supporting them also inspires me to look at my work differently and push myself creatively.
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| Ooo! Pass me the pretzels, please! |
Q: Tell us every little thing about 1) your MOST favorite illustration project and 2) your MOST favorite design project.
A: This is a hard one! I have a lot of favorite projects and clients, and almost every new thing that comes up is the most exciting thing. I love everything I’ve ever done for Target as a freelance illustrator—their in-house marketing team is the best in the biz and working with them is a dream.
In terms of artwork, many years ago I worked with American Greetings to design a Christmas card that was a little poo in a snow globe that said “Warm Wishes”. I always thought that was such a funny job to be commissioned for.
Design-wise, I love all of the Appleseed books I had the opportunity to art direct and design at Abrams. All Aboard: Let’s Ride a Train is an entire novelty concept I developed in-house and I designed it with Andrew Kolb in mind as the illustrator. We were able to hire him for the project and it was so amazing to collaborate with him to bring my vision to life! I’m really proud of that one and the series that’s come from it at Abrams.
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| How fun! Let's go for a ride! Where to? |
Q: You work as an art director/designer by day and as a freelance illustrator by night. In what ways do you balance these two professional creative pursuits? And how do they influence each other, both creatively as well as from a business perspective?
A: It’s a constant give/take to be able to balance a full-time creative job and freelance/personal work and life itself. I think a large obstacle I’ve had to overcome is the idea that my identity and worth are defined by my productivity, output, and title as a creative. I get really burnt out trying to “do it all” and it’s taken me a very stressful year to step back and reassess how I achieve said balance. Luckily, I’m now established in my career, both in-house and freelance, and I can choose to be more intentional about dedicating my time to things I care about. This means feeling more comfortable saying no to freelance jobs, setting boundaries at my day job, and not tying my worth to how often I post on Instagram (which can be very difficult).
In terms of how my day-job and freelance impact one another—I think the influence is pretty great. Maybe not from a stylistic or subject standpoint, but as I move from industry to industry, I start to understand more about the behind the scenes needs of an art team. Working for Curbed, which is digital media, is completely different than working in publishing, or working in apparel/product design. The art and design will ALWAYS need to be strong, but what makes the work successful and how a user interacts with it is really different. I’ve also been pushed out of my comfort zone with every new position; Target was incredibly trend-driven and required that I widen my illustration style and mark-making range, Abrams pushed me to develop more confident typography skills and collaborate in a new way, and I’ve spent a great deal of time learning CSS, working on branding, and creating animations for Curbed. All of this impacts the way I work, the work I look at, and my goals as an artist in general. I also think my illustration background and my place in the community allows me to communicate with artists better and give more helpful and specific feedback as an art director. It also helps that I have a wonderful community that I can hire from and I’m genuinely invested in maintaining relationships with artists and following trends in the industry.
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| Everything is better with a twist of orange! Don't cha agree?! |
Q: As an art director/designer you work with numerous creative freelancers on a regular basis. What are your top 3 hot super star tips for how to have a successful relationship with you and other creative clients?
A: My first tip is to be aware of the market you want to work in. If you want to work in children’s books, for example, it helps to know your competitive landscape—who’s successful in that field, who’s hiring artists similar to your work (or who’s not). A trip to the bookstore or taking a peak at another artist’s client list might help point you in the right direction. If you find that there’s not many artists successfully making art in the field with art that looks like yours, it might be helpful to assess your portfolio with a critical eye to make sure it aligns with the needs of the market. To return to our children’s book example, if you’re drawing super gorey fight scenes, you might find that you’re targeting the wrong industry or that your work needs to adjust to optimize your potential. That being said, ultimately find a way to both be marketable AND be true to your voice and style(s). Keep the work original!
Secondly, shamelessly promote yourself! Flaunt your favorite work and be involved in high-visibility projects or platforms. Instagram is my current favorite discovery tool and I often find people's work who submit to popular accounts like @BallpitMag @brwnpaperbag or use tags like #WomenofIllustration or #goodtype (to name a few). I also bookmark relevant portfolios emailed to me as an art director and save promo mailers for hiring inspiration. You are essentially providing a service to those who need to hire artists and make their job easier by making your work visible to them. You might not always hear back or see an immediate return on investment but it’s important to put yourself out there without fear of failure. Create and confidently share the type of work you want to be hired for!
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| Quick! Take me to Olive Garden for endless breadsticks! |
Finally, if you do land that freelance job, communication is key. I always appreciate working with artists who are timely in their communication, ask questions to get clarity on projects, and keep me up to date on their progress. Going AWOL in the middle of a project or not having the right deliverables at the agreed upon time is the number one way to cause a tear in a creative relationship. As an AD a lot of people rely on me to share the progress of a project and if my creative talent isn’t communicating often and honestly, then I can’t keep my team up to date either. That’s stressful for everyone involved! I’m 100% more likely to hire someone who was easy and delightful to work with over someone who made my job more difficult. It seems simple, but if you’re a reliable artist you’ll build lifelong freelance relationships.
Q: Describe your most perfect Sunday.
A: My perfect Sunday is sleeping in until 10am and waking up to have freshly brewed coffee with my boyfriend. My best Sundays include taking a long walk in Brooklyn, running errands, cleaning up the house and cooking something delicious for dinner (with the perfect wine pairing) and relaxing by reading or watching a movie. I love using Sunday as a reset day. Weekends are my sacred time to get my life back in order before the chaos of the week begins again. I tend to do most of my freelance work on weeknights, too, so I can have the weekend to relax as much as possible.
Thanks so much for chatting it up with us here at Bird Meets Worm, Alyssa! You rock!
Wednesday, March 13, 2019
Super Star Children's Book Review: Ira Crumb Makes A Pretty Good Friend
Welcome to the monthly children’s book review feature with a focus on diverse books here at Bird Meets Worm! My team of reviewers—Joan Charles, Laurie Young, Sarah Orgill—and I are so excited to be championing books celebrating everything from gender diversity, people of color, the LGBTQ community to ethnic, cultural and religious minorities, people with disabilities and developmental challenges to controversial topics, unique family situations and anything and everything I did not include. It is to say we take a rightfully broad view of diversity! We aim to shine a light on books that bring both familiar experiences to those who do not often see themselves represented in books and new experiences to those looking to expand their worldview. Here at Bird Meets Worm we believe in the power of story to build empathy and thus a better world for you and me and everyone. Look for a new review on the second Wednesday of every month.
IRA CRUMB MAKES A PRETTY GOOD FRIEND
Written by Naseem Hrab • Illustrated by Josh Holinaty Picture Book (ages 5-8) • 32 pages
Published by Owlkids • 2017
ISBN: 978-1-7714-7171-8
Ira Crumb is the about to be the new kid at school. He knows that he makes a pretty good friend. He’s funny, he’s kind, and he’s even an awesome dancer. But Ira knows that the new kid always ends up alone, eating lunch by themselves and walking home solo after school. The week before school starts, Ira schemes, hoping to make some friends before the first day. From running for “Friendsident,” to holding a dance off, to playing it cool, Ira desperately tries to make a friend before the dreaded first day. He does end up trudging to school alone the first day, but fortunately meets Malcolm, who was new the year before. The two become fast friends.
With Ira Crumb, Naseem Hrab tackles real issues like loneliness and rejection that children of all ages face when in a new environment. Ira proves to be a plucky and honest character, a role model for kids in similar situations. Hrab has an ear for kid-speak, from “booger in your nose cave, pal” to “can’t stop, won’t stop!” She shows a true understanding of the fears a young child might have preparing to face a new school.
Josh Holinaty’s illustrations capture Ira’s unique character with a comic-strip style quality. His combination of human and animal characters show the real diversity in Ira’s, and our own, world.
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Reviewed by: Sarah Orgill
Saturday, March 9, 2019
#KidLit4Climate
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| This kidlit Author/Illustrator stands with kids against climate change! • © Super Jane Smith |
Tuesday, March 5, 2019
Pieces: Children's Music Album
It is my absolute pleasure to share the children's music album, PIECES, for which I created the artwork! PIECES is a collection of songs for kids that benefits the Music Therapy program for children and teens on the autism spectrum at the Bridgeway Academy in my hometown of Columbus, Ohio. For every sale, $5 is being donated to the Bridgeway Academy.
This project is extra special, because PIECES was created by my childhood friend, Jordan Lynch, who is an accomplished professional musician, and I was so flattered to be asked to contribute to the project. Jordan's inspiration for PIECES is his son who has thrived at the Bridgeway Academy. What a wonderful way to celebrate & give back!!
PIECES is available now on iTunes, CDBaby, and through the PiecesCD Facebook store!
Thank you so much for your support! XO
Super Star Interviews: Janee Trasler
Welcome to my monthly interview feature! I’m so excited to be interviewing all the fabulous artists, illustrators and designers I’ve meet over the years (both personally and virtually!) and sharing their artwork and experiences here on Bird Meets Worm. Look for a new interview on the first Tuesday of every month.
This month I’m thrilled to be chatting it up with supa-dupa-star Author/Illustrator, Janee Trasler! I'm a total fan of Janee's hilarious art & silly stories! Janee writes and illustrates funny books for kids. Including the popular Chickies board book series with HarperCollins. Whether she’s writing books, drawing pictures, singing songs, or putting on puppet shows, she’s all about the laughs. You can view more of her artwork here & share a giggle or two!
Q: You just signed a 3-book deal with Scholastic for a new illustrated early reader series titled, Frog and Dog! Congratulations!!! Give us the scoop about this new project and how it developed from initial inspiration to the present.
A: I’m so excited about this project! ACORN is the new younger-sibling of the Scholastic BRANCHES line, and I couldn’t be happier to have Frog and Dog be a part of it.
This is one of those freaky, wonderful projects that happened fast. The first book was inspired by something one of my critique partners said (waves madly at Kim Norman).
What did she say?
FROG. She said the word FROG, and my mind took off. Within 48 hours, I had the first book written, sketched, critiqued by another critique partner (waves madly at Tammi Sauer), revised and in my agent’s inbox.
Sometimes, that’s all it takes, right? One word.
(Okay, one more quick wave at my third critique partner, Jessica Young, and then I’ll quit waving for a bit. My arm is tired.)
Q: As an author/illustrator you are known for your hilarious children’s books, like the Chickies board book series. Dish with us a bit about creating FUNNY books and who/what/where inspires your sense of humor.
A: To me, one of the biggest keys to humor is timing. Picture book writers and illustrators are lucky because the format offers us great opportunities to control timing. Every page turn is a chance for a punchline. (I’m not recommending you USE a punchline after every page of course – less is more.)
Growing up, we always had MAD Magazine in our house. Sergio Aragones and Don Martin were my childhood writing, illustrating, and comedic mentors. You can’t study Aragones without learning economy of words, and you can’t read as many Don Martin cartoons as I have without soaking up some timing skills.
I love making kids laugh, but I also like to make that emotional connection. I don’t just want the ha-ha; I striving for the ha-ha-awe.
Q: In addition to being an author/illustrator, you are a songwriter, performer and puppeteer. In what ways does your musical and performance talents inform and enhance your children’s bookwork?
A: I used to struggle with what to call myself. My interests are so varied. Then I realized that what all these things boiled down to is storytelling. I’m a storyteller. Once I made that connection, I noticed that everything I love to do feeds everything else I love to do.
One of the best things about performing is seeing first-hand how an audience reacts to a story. What makes them laugh? What makes them interact with the story? What engages and holds their attention versus what has them wandering off and trying to peel the posters off the wall?
Even if you don’t perform yourself, I encourage anyone who writes or illustrates for children to go to their public library and attend a few story times. The intel you pick up there is pure gold.
Q: You are currently represented by Jamie Weiss Chilton at the Andrea Brown Literary Agency. Tell us a bit about your experiences being represented as an author/illustrator—how you collaborate, how you work as a team and what is most rewarding versus what is most challenging.
A: Jamie is awesome. There’s just no other word for her. Oh wait, yes there is—she’s fantastic, wonderful, smart, talented, and everything else that sparkles and glitters! (waves madly at Jamie!)
As an editorial-style agent, she will make suggestions on how to improve something. She’s generally right with her input, too. And since the agents at Andrea Brown Literary can share projects with each other, I often benefit from input from several agents.
I can’t say there are any challenges to working with Jamie. I’ve always felt that we have the same goals in mind for my work and career, and I think that’s the most important part of a client/agent relationship.
This month I’m thrilled to be chatting it up with supa-dupa-star Author/Illustrator, Janee Trasler! I'm a total fan of Janee's hilarious art & silly stories! Janee writes and illustrates funny books for kids. Including the popular Chickies board book series with HarperCollins. Whether she’s writing books, drawing pictures, singing songs, or putting on puppet shows, she’s all about the laughs. You can view more of her artwork here & share a giggle or two!
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| Ooo! Those chickies are too cute! Time to rise & shine, cow! |
Q: You just signed a 3-book deal with Scholastic for a new illustrated early reader series titled, Frog and Dog! Congratulations!!! Give us the scoop about this new project and how it developed from initial inspiration to the present.
A: I’m so excited about this project! ACORN is the new younger-sibling of the Scholastic BRANCHES line, and I couldn’t be happier to have Frog and Dog be a part of it.
This is one of those freaky, wonderful projects that happened fast. The first book was inspired by something one of my critique partners said (waves madly at Kim Norman).
What did she say?
FROG. She said the word FROG, and my mind took off. Within 48 hours, I had the first book written, sketched, critiqued by another critique partner (waves madly at Tammi Sauer), revised and in my agent’s inbox.
Sometimes, that’s all it takes, right? One word.
(Okay, one more quick wave at my third critique partner, Jessica Young, and then I’ll quit waving for a bit. My arm is tired.)
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| Don't cha wanna play with us, sheep?! Cheep, cheep! |
Q: As an author/illustrator you are known for your hilarious children’s books, like the Chickies board book series. Dish with us a bit about creating FUNNY books and who/what/where inspires your sense of humor.
A: To me, one of the biggest keys to humor is timing. Picture book writers and illustrators are lucky because the format offers us great opportunities to control timing. Every page turn is a chance for a punchline. (I’m not recommending you USE a punchline after every page of course – less is more.)
Growing up, we always had MAD Magazine in our house. Sergio Aragones and Don Martin were my childhood writing, illustrating, and comedic mentors. You can’t study Aragones without learning economy of words, and you can’t read as many Don Martin cartoons as I have without soaking up some timing skills.
I love making kids laugh, but I also like to make that emotional connection. I don’t just want the ha-ha; I striving for the ha-ha-awe.
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| Hmmm...wouldn't be funny if someone fell in this mud puddle?! |
Q: In addition to being an author/illustrator, you are a songwriter, performer and puppeteer. In what ways does your musical and performance talents inform and enhance your children’s bookwork?
A: I used to struggle with what to call myself. My interests are so varied. Then I realized that what all these things boiled down to is storytelling. I’m a storyteller. Once I made that connection, I noticed that everything I love to do feeds everything else I love to do.
One of the best things about performing is seeing first-hand how an audience reacts to a story. What makes them laugh? What makes them interact with the story? What engages and holds their attention versus what has them wandering off and trying to peel the posters off the wall?
Even if you don’t perform yourself, I encourage anyone who writes or illustrates for children to go to their public library and attend a few story times. The intel you pick up there is pure gold.
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| Yep! Falling IS funny! |
Q: You have always been humorously open about the wild ups and downs of your (maybe everyone else’s, too? certainly mine!) creative process, the swings from genius to sucking it. Chat with us a bit about how you ride these waves out and what you do to tip the balance in favor of the genius moments.
A: Ah yes, the roller coaster ride of emotions that is the creative’s lot in life.
Sometimes, when you hit those lows—those times when you’re convinced a baboon with a crayon could do better work—you just have to ride it out. As Winston Churchill said, “If you’re going through hell, keep going.”
When I find myself in those times though, I find it helpful to:
1. Talk to someone in my tribe. It doesn’t even have to be about what I’m going through. Sometimes just talking to someone* about the business of books or art can reenergize me.
2. Do something else creative, but not related to books. I paint, sing, or build miniatures.
3. Remind myself that I have felt this way before and always come out the other side.
4. Go to the bookstore and read new picture books for inspiration.
It’s also helpful to remember that you’re not alone; even your heroes go through low spots.
One of my critique partners routinely calls me and informs me that she “forgot how to write” and “will never have another good idea as long as she lives.” This phone call usually comes about ten minutes after she just sold a book and about five minutes before she comes up with another brilliant idea.
*Note: Spouses (unless they are also in a creative business) are not usually the best people to talk to about your creative worries. Bless their hearts, they’ll try, but they’ll probably just manage to hurt your feelings or make you mad. (Waves madly at long-suffering husband.)
A: Ah yes, the roller coaster ride of emotions that is the creative’s lot in life.
Sometimes, when you hit those lows—those times when you’re convinced a baboon with a crayon could do better work—you just have to ride it out. As Winston Churchill said, “If you’re going through hell, keep going.”
When I find myself in those times though, I find it helpful to:
1. Talk to someone in my tribe. It doesn’t even have to be about what I’m going through. Sometimes just talking to someone* about the business of books or art can reenergize me.
2. Do something else creative, but not related to books. I paint, sing, or build miniatures.
3. Remind myself that I have felt this way before and always come out the other side.
4. Go to the bookstore and read new picture books for inspiration.
It’s also helpful to remember that you’re not alone; even your heroes go through low spots.
One of my critique partners routinely calls me and informs me that she “forgot how to write” and “will never have another good idea as long as she lives.” This phone call usually comes about ten minutes after she just sold a book and about five minutes before she comes up with another brilliant idea.
*Note: Spouses (unless they are also in a creative business) are not usually the best people to talk to about your creative worries. Bless their hearts, they’ll try, but they’ll probably just manage to hurt your feelings or make you mad. (Waves madly at long-suffering husband.)
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| Gasp! Hope this little guy is ok!! |
Q: You are currently represented by Jamie Weiss Chilton at the Andrea Brown Literary Agency. Tell us a bit about your experiences being represented as an author/illustrator—how you collaborate, how you work as a team and what is most rewarding versus what is most challenging.
A: Jamie is awesome. There’s just no other word for her. Oh wait, yes there is—she’s fantastic, wonderful, smart, talented, and everything else that sparkles and glitters! (waves madly at Jamie!)
As an editorial-style agent, she will make suggestions on how to improve something. She’s generally right with her input, too. And since the agents at Andrea Brown Literary can share projects with each other, I often benefit from input from several agents.
I can’t say there are any challenges to working with Jamie. I’ve always felt that we have the same goals in mind for my work and career, and I think that’s the most important part of a client/agent relationship.
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| Ooo! Isn't Janee's studio fabulous?! I totally wanna hang out! |
Q: Describe your most perfect Sunday.
A: Ooooh, I feel so lucky, because I basically get to live my most perfect Sunday every week! I sing in a Cowboy Church band, I have coffee and book talk with a writing friend, then I drive the 66 miles to my studio and work on creative projects into the wee hours. I spend Sunday night at my studio and wake up Monday morning and pick up where I left off. Perfect end to one week and start to a new one.
Jane, thanks for letting me visit your blog and for asking such great questions! (waves madly at new friend, Super Jane Smith)
A: Ooooh, I feel so lucky, because I basically get to live my most perfect Sunday every week! I sing in a Cowboy Church band, I have coffee and book talk with a writing friend, then I drive the 66 miles to my studio and work on creative projects into the wee hours. I spend Sunday night at my studio and wake up Monday morning and pick up where I left off. Perfect end to one week and start to a new one.
Jane, thanks for letting me visit your blog and for asking such great questions! (waves madly at new friend, Super Jane Smith)
My pleasure, Janee!! We loved having you here at Bird Meets Worm! Thanks so much for chatting with us & congrats on Frog and Dog!!
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